18 responses

  1. Kevin Kelly
    November 21, 2017

    Good advice thanks.

    I personally have no interest in installing Mac High Sierra yet, but I will reconsider around 10.13.3 or 10.13.4, as lately it seems to take a few releases to fix the major problems. The things that freak me out about High Sierra are APFS trouble and WindowServer issues, both are so core to the OS that if you have a problem with either, you’re in trouble.

    My attitude with software updates now depends on the hardware it’s going on, and if I hear a whiff of trouble I avoid them completely. I have one older 2010 Mac still running Snow Leopard 10.6.5, performance is great and it does what it needs to do so there is no reason to change it. Another on Mavericks 10.9.5 that is not Retina, and another newer Mac on Sierra 10.12.6. This approach works for me, but it may not work for everyone.

    • Liam
      November 22, 2017

      Right on, I’ll only ever install ‘newly’ released OS’s onto test machines. I have a pair of 2008 MacPro’s one runs Yosemite ( perfectly stable and fast on a SSD ) and the other running High Sierra ( via the macOS High Sierra Patch Tool ) which runs better than expected, but again High Sierra needs plenty of bug fixes. My Touch Bar MacBook Pro will remain on Sierra until I’m confident High Sierra is sufficiently stable and productive…

    • Aaron
      November 22, 2017

      I’m in the same boat as well. I have mid 2012 MBPro and am waiting it out till 10.13.3 or so before I update. Been bit in the butt too many times for jumping in at the first release.

  2. John Beaudette
    November 21, 2017

    If you have downloaded the High Sierra Beta, you can rename the beta file and lock it as indicated above.

  3. Pete
    November 21, 2017

    I usually avoid premature updating the Mac OS, in part due to the Xerox Printers I have often not having a necessary driver (to get access all the printer features) due to somewhat slow development by Xerox.

    Unfortunately, I downloaded an upgrade to Quicken … and it required Mac High Sierra — (wish I’d seen that before clicking OK). So with some reluctance, I backed everything up and the obtained the High Sierra update.

    To my surprise, it did a pretty good job in installing on my “Late 2014, Retina display Mac” … with only a few glitches (caused by weird messages demanding the admin password — that with the help of this site (and others) that I managed to clear).

    The major sigh of relief came from the discovery that High Sierra has incorporated the Xerox drivers into the print driver package that comes with the update. My Xerox printer (Phaser 7760GX) works better than ever.

  4. Archie
    November 21, 2017

    I’ve already updated to High Sierra, but heavily pushing OS upgrades just short of forcing it to occur is one of the most repulsive tactics that a software company can employ. Apple has learned the wrong lesson from Microsoft’s Windows 10 upgrade fiasco.

  5. iMac convert
    November 22, 2017

    Apple take the P with their d/loading and updates almost weekly now.
    These updates are painful for data allowance if one has a phone and iPad also.
    At least they could display the data on each one, why do they not do this?

  6. Lee
    November 22, 2017

    Its constant updates because they have released rubbish BETA software to the world. Ill stick on 10.12.6 Server until 10.14 comes out, and ill try that

    • Andy
      December 12, 2017

      Same here. From what I’ve seen, it looks like in 10.13, the Server stuff is basically gone entirely. It’s been a downward spiral since they got rid of the XServe and the dedicated OS X Server operating system several years ago. I’ve migrated most of our company’s services away from OS X Server (used to self-host email and web but not any more). Now just file sharing and Time Machine Server (also gone in High Sierra).

      Ugh.

  7. Jonathan
    November 22, 2017

    I completely agree with the others and am grateful to know this process. Since trashing the installer app for High Sierra, my system seems to run better too. I’m sticking with 10.12.6 for now. I updated my Office 2016 but that was a mistake also; fortunately, I was able to remove it and reinstall the earlier version so now everything works nicely on my 2011 iMac.

  8. LexS
    December 6, 2017

    REMINDER:
    the name may be different in other languages. For example in Dutch it is:
    macOS High Sierra-installatie

  9. Hisham sater
    December 12, 2017

    I installed macos high siera and my mac can’t startup
    A question mark flash appears
    I turned it off and on again and hold on command and R key and used disk utility to start it up and it is still the same
    What i must do ??

  10. h.honnest
    December 21, 2017

    Thanks for the detailed explanation @Paul Horowitz

    I have tried the “How to Completely Prevent the Mac App Store from Downloading the MacOS High Sierra Installer”.

    I followed all the steps carefully. But somehow it doesn’t prevent me from being able to download High Sierra, as it should.

    I have my mac setup in Dutch, so I use the Dutch name of the app, as @LexS suggested in his comment.

    Though the installer hasn’t reappeared in the applications folder yet, I suppose it eventually will.

    I wonder if I should delete the original Launchpad.app, but I guess that won’t do the trick, will it? (guess the launchpad app won’t function at all any more)

    So I hope any of you have a suggestion.

  11. Aaron Marks
    January 12, 2018

    I too found that the instructions for preventing High Sierra from downloading do not work.

    The installer downloads in parallel with the locked fake installer.

    Using Get Info, I determined that the full file name of the installer is actually “Install macOS High Sierra.appdownload” and not .app.

    Using Get Info again, I tried renaming my fake file with the new extension, but it still didn’t prevent the installer from downloading.

    I tried clearing out the App Store cache (following other instructions online) and rebooting, with the locked file still in place, but my Mac continued to be able to download the undesired installer.

    I’m giving up on this for now.

    • Tom
      January 12, 2018

      I think what some users have problems with is the .app extension, you must have file extensions enabled as visible, so that you can use the .app extension as intended.

      Then Place a locked item named “Install macOS High Sierra.app” into the Applications folder.

      That’s all you need to do, High Sierra will no longer download.

      It worked perfectly for me, but it prevents the High Sierra installer from ever downloading until you delete the placeholder locked file.

      • Another Tom
        January 16, 2018

        Unfortunately no, it didn’t work for me and I do have the extensions visible. I’m currently running Sierra, MacOS 10.12.6, on a MacBook Air (11 inch, early 2015).

        The resulting file overwrote my appropriately named copy. I’ll note that it appears to have downloaded in parallel (as .appdownload) and then when it copied the completed download to .app, it didn’t honor the lock. The resulting file, “Install macOS High Sierra.app”, is 5.26 GB and *LOCKED*, indicating that the installer overwrote the file but ignored the lock rather than clearing it.

  12. Tim
    January 25, 2018

    High Sierra will knock older versions of Filemaker out of working order and do the same for Final Cut Pro or, Soundtrac Pro or DVD Studio Pro … all of which might lead to some trouble.

    Out of consideration there should at least be a “Cancel” option in the dialogue.

    One hates to get angry at Apple – but sometimes it is well deserved.

  13. radio larian
    January 26, 2018

    Both Apple and Microsoft have lost their way. I have gone from being a frequent updater to freezing all of the many systems under my control in a moment in time. For Apple, that moment is Mavericks. For Microsoft, it is Windows 7. This was a carefully studied and considered decision. As was our decision to follow the advice of several credible security experts and drop the use of anti-malware software on the basis that they actually reduce the integrity of your system.

    My systems are used in sensitive activities. We are not engaged in a bunch of vapid social networking. We aren’t interested in Apple’s desire to be the Gucci of technology, or Microsoft’s Borg like assimilation of our systems and data. I don’t know what our solution will be when it is no longer viable to stay where we are, but I keep hoping that a group of adults somewhere will generate a business user viable Linux. BTW – I was one of the bleeding edge folks in 1975 who started all this mess (sorry world) so my decisions are not coming from a base of reactionary ignorance.

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