18 responses

  1. Dan Foster
    November 19, 2017

    I don’t desire a change of the system font – what I want to restore the ability to change Safari’s font. I’ve pretty much quit using Safari over it’s font.

  2. Rich Scharf
    November 19, 2017

    Tried this, but had to uninstall.

    When activated, passwords become invisible. That is, the password input field will not even display dots when you type in it.

    Thought my Bluetooth keyboard had died for a minute.

    • Angelo
      November 21, 2017

      I had the same issue and reverted to the original font. It took me a few minutes to figure out why passwords were invisible.

  3. MTK
    November 19, 2017

    Same here, advise not to use it, Asterisks no longer appear nor does the i-bar for the curser move in password field. In some cases I get small faded squares instead of the asterisks. Tab’s on Safari no longer readable, letters running together. Changed back to San Francisco, bounced PC, and uninstalled the app. No help….. Bummer, have to restore to get my system back in order. Running High Sierra 10.13.1

    • ubnt
      November 20, 2017

      You can’t just uninstall the app to change the font back. You have to open the app again and choose ‘San Francisco’ again as the system font to use, that will restore the original default system font.

      The reason is the app basically places a modified system font file into a user level system folder. So if you just delete the app, that font stays in place. You have to remove that font and replace it with the default system font again, which the app does by choosing “San Francicso” and clicking green install button.

      • MTK
        November 20, 2017

        Did that, no help, had to restore from backup

      • bk
        November 20, 2017

        I had the same thing happen, fonts are jammed together, virtually unreadable tabs in Safari, previews in Mail also jammed together. What exactly did you restore, the system? Thanks.

      • Ton
        November 20, 2017

        The article details exactly how to reset to the default system font.

        – Relaunch the macOSLucidaGrande app and click the “San Fransisco” tab

        – Click the green check button to re-set the original San Francisco font as the system font

        – Reboot the Mac


        You can restore from a backup but that should not be necessary unless you messed something up separately.

  4. Prescott Perez-Fox
    November 19, 2017

    Both typefaces are awful. Check out Input from Font Bureau. Free for personal use (like this very thing). A few versions old, so use with caution.


    You’ll thank me.

    • erint
      November 20, 2017

      Can Input Sans be used for High Sierra? It shows older versions of Mac OS as the support.

  5. Howie Isaacks
    November 19, 2017

    San Francisco was created in part to make the system font easier to read. Why go back to Lucida Grande?

  6. Tom Boyer
    November 19, 2017

    Clicked on your links and none of them returned what you reference in your instructions.

  7. Randy Baguinon
    November 20, 2017

    nah… I like SF PRO Display better than Lucida Grande. and this is easier to do, without having to install a 3rd party app.

    • Chic
      November 20, 2017

      Sounds interesting, how do you use SF Pro Bold for system font in MacOS?

  8. Steve Steele
    November 20, 2017

    I’m one of those old school System 6/7 users who likes his Finder just the way he found it. But, for some reason I actually like San Francisco even though it can look a bit awkward in some places. It seemed to make the “back to the future” 2-D look of the current macOS more paletteable.

    Has anybody noticed that macOS and iOS seem to be ever so subilty adding a hint of “skeuomorphisms“ compared to the initial Yosemite ”hello kitty” yuck of 2014? I still want the old Trash can though. I don’t care what Apple HIGs it breaks. The Dock could still look cooler. I think Mavericks was the peak of the look except for the leather Calendar. Just keep toning down the pinks Apple. Back to blues, greys, blacks and whites. No more pink. Maybe Apple will slightly update the look again when the iMac Pros and Mac Pros hit the streets.

    Anyway, sorry to get off topic.

    • RM
      November 20, 2017

      I hear that Apple is working on an exclusive Hello Kitty iMac Pro in hot pink and all decked out with sparkly things stuck to it.


  9. Michelle
    January 16, 2018

    I did it… looked cool, then when I restarted, not only was password not entering, typing invisible password was still incorrect. I cant get into my computer now. Having to reinstall OS and hoping I can get in so I can promptly delete this program. Lucida is not worth all this trouble.

  10. Steve L’Heureux
    February 22, 2018

    I used this a few days ago, changed System Font, decided I wanted to go back, and the App will not give me a green check mark for San Francisco. I’m running Sierra 10.12.6 with all current updates. Early 2015 MBP

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